Child Support

Big Jake on 6/22/99 6:31 PM said:

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>>>>True that taking away a persons CDL will cause them to fall even further behind BUT there is a hearing to decide if it is removed. If the circusmstances are that the parent hit a rough spot and has always before made the payments then it is likely the CDL will not be removed. If however the person is a true deadbeat and just won't take responsiblity and isjumping from job to job to avoid attachments then the CDL will be removed.
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>>And removed, it should be! If somebody doesn't care enuff to provide some finacial care to those s/he "screwed into the world," then I don't want that worthless excuse for a human being on the road with me! What else won't s/he care about? My safety? Yours? Others? And as for cutting off their source of income, let him or her take a minimum wage job somewhere!
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I know that there are many other worthless excuses for human beings in 4 wheels on the road. Is their driver's license, electrical license, plumbers license, teaching license, realator's license, etc. revoked for non-support or is it just limited to a CDL license?

Just a thought-it is the child's/children's welfare we are concerned with so isn't it in the child's/children's best interest that the parents be kept gainfully employed? There's not much support to be gotten from a minumum wage job.

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>>And removed, it should be! If somebody doesn't care enuff to provide some finacial care to those s/he "screwed into the world," then I don't want that worthless excuse for a human being on the road with me! What else won't s/he care about? My safety? Yours? Others? And as for cutting off their source of income, let him or her take a minimum wage job somewhere!
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Your kinder than I would be. Deadbeat parents are sad excuses for human lives. These kids didn't choose to be born. People need to stand up and be responsible. I couldn't agree with you more. I will give room to a parent who may have fallen behind because of reasons beyond their control and that does happen. Those people kill themselves to catch up though.

I believe all professional licsense are sublect to be revoked if the court sees fit. If you can't provide basic needs for your kids why should you have luxaries for yourself?

Here in Maryland, they are now taking any driver's lisense for non-payment of child support. They are also doing mass 3AM round-ups on deadbeat parents.
I have always been on both sides of the fence with this issue. For one, I beleive the courts are unrealistic with the $ amounts they set for the absent parent. I am sorry, but it just DOES NOT cost $400.00 a month to support a 7 year old child (just an example). I think they should encourage decreased monetary payment for:
A) maintaining health insurance for the child
B) further deduction for dental insurance
C) absent parent should be allowed to personally purchase clothing and necessities for the child and use the receipts to document those purchases as part of the support agreement.
So often, the courts set these high figure awards and the absent parent is remanded to pay it regardless of what the guardian parent is doing with the money. How much of that $400 a month is actually spent on the child's care and needs? The guardian parent should have to justify the need for the requested amount. How many of these parents get this money then spend it frivolously? A lot!
For example, let's say a driver is remanded to pay $400 a month. Which he does initially. He stops by to visit with his child and sees that Mom has a live-in boyfriend who is most likely helping with the bills. There is new furniture or a new car, Mom has designer fingernails or new clothes, the kid is living off of McD's and pizza, as opposed to healthy meals, etc. etc. Can you see how that driver could quickly become bitter and lax about his support payment?
Or how about the family that separates and the guardian parent is using the support money for drugs or booze while the kid runs around in rags and lives in a ghetto.
Or how about the guardian parent that always comes up with some reason to withhold visitation? The absentee parent can file in court for visitation (which is usually already established and it will take months for it to come back to court) but the guardian parent already ignores that order, so what good is another one? I saw one bitter ex-wife drag the father's life and reputation through the mud and hell because she accused her ex of sexual abuse with their 3 yr. old daughter. The battle went on for over 2 years, he lost more than one job because of taking days off to get to all of the court appearances (often getting to court to find the case postponed). Mom was a druggie and was arrested TWICE! during this case for selling the stuff. Yet, she could make this ridiculous claim against him and the courts
wouldn't even take her behavior into account! There was NEVER any evidence presented against him, just her word!
I truly beleive that the courts and lawyers are often responsible for causing divorces to be ugly battles of greed. These battles further destroy any chance of a future working relationship between the two parents and cause increased anger and bitterness which ultimately affects the kids.
The courts need to be more realistic in their judgements, the parents should both be held accountable for their part of the support and what is done with the money. If the guardian parent requires alimony to help them support themselves, then that is a separate issue altogether. It should have to be justified to the court, and should remain that way until the situation changes. Support of the guardian parent should not be lumped into CS payments. I see too many people who use their kids as a meal ticket, and it doesn't matter who is paying..an absentee parent or our tax dollars. AND IT MAKES ME MAD!
I am a single Mom, raised 3 kids, and never collected a cent in CS. I've worked 2 and 3 jobs, went back to school so I could get a better job, and my kids wore clothes from second hand stores. So did I.
I realize every case is different, but these are some of the things that cuase the absentee parent to stop paying.
Again, there are some that are just DEADBEATS. Those kind often have kids all over the place that they aren't paying for.
There Bets, ya got my 2 cents worth.
Keeping you safe, healthy, and on the road.
Nurse Red

Nurse Red on 6/23/99 5:22 AM said:

>>Here in Maryland, they are now taking any driver's lisense for non-payment of child support. They are also doing mass 3AM round-ups on deadbeat parents.
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>>I have always been on both sides of the fence with this issue. For one, I beleive the courts are unrealistic with the $ amounts they set for the absent parent. I am sorry, but it just DOES NOT cost $400.00 a month to support a 7 year old child (just an example). I think they should encourage decreased monetary payment for:
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>>So often, the courts set these high figure awards and the absent parent is remanded to pay it regardless of what the guardian parent is doing with the money. How much of that $400 a month is actually spent on the child's care and needs? The guardian parent should have to justify the need for the requested amount. How many of these parents get this money then spend it frivolously? A lot!
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>>Or how about the guardian parent that always comes up with some reason to withhold visitation? The absentee parent can file in court for visitation (which is usually already established and it will take months for it to come back to court) but the guardian parent already ignores that order, so what good is another one? I saw one bitter ex-wife drag the father's life and reputation through the mud and hell because she accused her ex of sexual abuse with their 3 yr. old daughter. The battle went on for over 2 years, he lost more than one job because of taking days off to get to all of the court appearances (often getting to court to find the case postponed). Mom was a druggie and was arrested TWICE! during this case for selling the stuff. Yet, she could make this ridiculous claim against him and the courts
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>>I truly beleive that the courts and lawyers are often responsible for causing divorces to be ugly battles of greed. These battles further destroy any chance of a future working relationship between the two parents and cause increased anger and bitterness which ultimately affects the kids.
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>>The courts need to be more realistic in their judgements, the parents should both be held accountable for their part of the support and what is done with the money. If the guardian parent requires alimony to help them support themselves, then that is a separate issue altogether. It should have to be justified to the court, and should remain that way until the situation changes. Support of the guardian parent should not be lumped into CS payments. I see too many people who use their kids as a meal ticket, and it doesn't matter who is paying..an absentee parent or our tax dollars. AND IT MAKES ME MAD!
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>>I am a single Mom, raised 3 kids, and never collected a cent in CS. I've worked 2 and 3 jobs, went back to school so I could get a better job, and my kids wore clothes from second hand stores. So did I.
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>>I realize every case is different, but these are some of the things that cuase the absentee parent to stop paying.
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>>Again, there are some that are just DEADBEATS. Those kind often have kids all over the place that they aren't paying for.
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>>There Bets, ya got my 2 cents worth.
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>>Keeping you safe, healthy, and on the road.
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>>Nurse Red
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>>Posted By: 209.122.199.141 (209.122.199.141)
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So glad you said all of this Nurse Red. I too have been on both sides of the fence. My X was previously married to someone before me (must be a glutton for punishment, LOL)& had a child from that marriage. His X had a live in boyfriend, she never worked & was constantly taking him to court for higher child support & then also expected him to pay for all dentist bills, clothes, etc. The court always awarded her the increase dispite the fact that he had a current wife to support & 2 other children. We had fallen behind on our electric, gas & mortgage but the courts opinion was, Too bad, that's your problem but pay your X-wife. I got a night-time job to help pay & took care of my babies during the day & she sat on her A$$ & collected. Now I am divorced, did what you did. Took college classes, better myself, got a job where I could take care of myself & kids without needing to depend on anyone. Sure my X should have taken responsibility too for our children . It's a 2-way street, not 1-way. I didn't want to go thru all the bull, he was always getting fired or laid off from his jobs so it would only mean an unending battle to collect. Something happend to him, he was in the hospital for 3 months & is now applying for disability. I have been informed that I can get something now for my minor daughter through SSI so this avenue I will persue. It's sad though to think that through his disability & not because of his responsibility that we will finally get something.

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>>>>I don't receive one penny from my X for child support however I would never do anything that would take away or interfere with his ability to make a living. He doesn't work steady due to a disability but I am sure that he does ok for himself. It's my choice, don't want the hassel, the courts, etc., & I'm managing ok without him. I know that this is not the norm & many are suffering due to non-support. But isn't it ironic, if you suspend a license the ability to pay is also being cut off. Keep the license, keep the person working & attach the wages.
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>>Yes, I agree with you. In Australia the child support is also a big issue. If one (man or women) is paying child support for 1 child, the ratio is 18% of your Gross weekly income. This means, after tax, then child support, you are left with the rest.
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>>The Goverment Department that operates this,has come under much critisism as being 'un-contactable'. The Goverment themsleves held an enquiry some years ago into the Child Support Scheme, but nothing came of it, which mean't that they were making too much money from it!
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>>Having 'been there, done that', but lucky enough to come to a private arrangement with my 'Ex', before the Goverment bought in the Child Support Law, I have to say I'm glad that my marriage did not fall apart in this time. On the other hand, as time went on I look forward to paying each month and help out when the 'Ex' gets an overload of house bills...it all benifits my Child in the long run.
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>>I don't know if Private Child Support Arrangements can be made between the parents in the USA...but if it can. It would have to be a far better way (and harmony the Child's life)than what I've been reading on the subject.
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Private arrangements can be set up between the parties initially here in the U.S. as long as they are approved by the administering Judge. This was the case with my youngest daughter. Following the formula that my state uses, he would have been paying $180 bi-weekly....1 child. He balked at that and I agreed, but only because I knew that he would be perfectly willing to help out with expenses should the need arise. And he has been true to his word. But then again, the welfare of and concern for our daughter has always and will always be our primary focus.

Mary

His Girl on 6/22/99 5:57 AM said:

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Yes, I agree with you. In Australia the child support is also a big issue. If one (man or women) is paying child support for 1 child, the ratio is 18% of your Gross weekly income. This means, after tax, then child support, you are left with the rest.
The same applies with 2 children., but higher. For this is 22% of your Gross weekly wage.
It is worked out on your previous years income, which if one happens to leave a job for a lower paying job...tuff luck! Also, if one goes to a higher paying job, it is 18% or 22% (28% if 3 children are involved) of this job gross weekly wage.
I know of some guys that are paying $180 a week for one child.And a personal friend of mine was paying $620 a week for his three children. This guy had done nothing wrong...worked hard etc, but his marriage fell apart when his wife found someone 'better'. He was able to make an appeal against the sum, as it was putting him on skid row!
It is quite a touchy subject here in Australia, just like over there. For the parents that are paying the support, they are unable to make a new life for themselves, because their wages are tired up in tax & child support.The more they earn..the higher the child support is.
The Goverment Department that operates this,has come under much critisism as being 'un-contactable'. The Goverment themsleves held an enquiry some years ago into the Child Support Scheme, but nothing came of it, which mean't that they were making too much money from it!
I myself am in favour of child support...but at an exceptable level that is agreed by both parties.
Having 'been there, done that', but lucky enough to come to a private arrangement with my 'Ex', before the Goverment bought in the Child Support Law, I have to say I'm glad that my marriage did not fall apart in this time. On the other hand, as time went on I look forward to paying each month and help out when the 'Ex' gets an overload of house bills...it all benifits my Child in the long run.
I don't know if Private Child Support Arrangements can be made between the parents in the USA...but if it can. It would have to be a far better way (and harmony the Child's life)than what I've been reading on the subject.

Mary on 6/24/99 12:28 PM said:


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>>Mary: It was good to read that you both have your Daughters welfare & concern at heart.
I have noticed over the years of couples that break up, become vindictive towards each other , which I guess is only natural at first. But quite often it is an ongoing situation, and really this is not in the best interests of the child/children, as you would agree.
ozzie

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>>Private arrangements can be set up between the parties initially here in the U.S. as long as they are approved by the administering Judge. This was the case with my youngest daughter. Following the formula that my state uses, he would have been paying $180 bi-weekly....1 child. He balked at that and I agreed, but only because I knew that he would be perfectly willing to help out with expenses should the need arise. And he has been true to his word. But then again, the welfare of and concern for our daughter has always and will always be our primary focus.
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>>Posted By: 209.240.200.32 (209.240.200.32)
>>Mary: It was good to read that you both have your Daughters welfare & concern at heart.
I have noticed over the years of couples that break up, become vindictive towards each other , which I guess is only natural at first. But quite often it is an ongoing situation, and really this is not in the best interests of the child/children, as you would agree.
ozzie

I wish my husbands ex-wife had just an ounce of your compassion, Nursie.

If you read my post at the "Warm and Fuzzy" you know our situation. We drew less than $35,000 out of the company last year (both of us) and sent/or spent in excess of $15,000 in child support and extras. We are supporting the x's deadbeat boyfriend and probably paying his child support.

If it was spent on the kids, I would never *****, but when we have to buy all of their school clothes and suppies or they won't get it, I get mad. Surely she can buy these things out of $700 a month. Surely she can pay her half of the deductables on insurance. For goodness sakes, we are spending in excess of $3000 a year for health and dental insurance and we are stuck paying the deductables and co-pays.

She(the x) called me a few weeks ago, wanting extra money so their daughter could have a birthday party. If I didn't send it well she would have to tell her no, she couldn't have a party. I told her no and sent his daughters birthday present. He was probably made the bad guy, that is whats bad.

I am just sick and tired of this bs and I will be a happy camper in a few years.