Truck Driver and Trucking Forums

Go Back   Truck Driver and Trucking Forums > Trucking Forums > Archive > Layover's Lounge (Archive)

 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-05-2000, 12:27 AM
HeavyWeather
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default What kind of an accident does it take to get fired

What kind of an accident does it take to get terminated in
the first 6 months or year?

What is considered preventable and what is considerd chargeable?

If the truck rolls over in a preventable is the driver
terminated automatically?


  #2  
Old 08-05-2000, 01:43 PM
prime rib
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: What kind of an accident does it take to get fired

HeavyWeather on 8/5/00 12:27 PM said:

>>
>>
What kind of an accident does it take to get terminated in
the first 6 months or year?
What is considered preventable and what is considerd chargeable?
If the truck rolls over in a preventable is the driver terminated automatically?
>>
>>


Most companies use dollar amount averageing in
determining a driver's employability after an
accident.
By that I mean that minor damage ( e.g.; mirrors,
scratches, a light, or a bumper ) won't get you
canned unless you have a lot of them in a relatively
short period of time ( along with a ticket or two ).

If on the other hand, you flip the rig and total the
truck, you can probably consider yourself history
with that particular employer.
Particularly if you've only been there a short while
and someone was hurt in the accident.
At this point it's costing the company more to keep
you than what you are worth in employability.

Though this is generally the case, I have seen exceptions.
I know of a P&D driver with a local LTL outfit hereabouts
who has had five accidents in the first two years on the
job with this employer.
His company policy says that a driver can have
no more than one accident per year.
His accident rate is nearly triple the company mandate.
Yet he is still there.
Why?
Probably because he is the best darned P&D driver
this company has ever seen -- or ever will see.
He does all the stops, and pick-ups, that are dumped
on him and gets done before the rest of his crew is
halfway home.
In short, he busts his hump and they wanna keep him.

Still, I know of another guy who is deep mud with his CDL
and his employer.
He turned a corner to tight with a van and ripped a
bus stop bench off it's moorings dragging it out into
the street as he went.
Did he stop?
Nope.
Did call in to report the accident?
Nope.
He just threw it in gear and took off.
Well, as fate would have it, a county mounty
was four cars behind him and pulled him over.
He got wrote up for hit & run, reckless driving,
public damage, and a host of other assorted items.
In short, he lost his liscence for six months and
he's working behind the counter at KFC.

So I guess the answer to your question depends on
who you know and how well you know them.
All else being equal your best bet is take
it easy out there and not have any wrecks
in the first place...

All the best,
-rib























  #3  
Old 08-05-2000, 03:39 PM
HeavyWeather
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: What kind of an accident does it take to get fired

Thanks for the excellent answer Rib. Different drivers for
Marten have given me different answers to what it takes to
get terminated. Would like to hear from Marten Drivers also
as to what kind of accident it takes to get terminated?


  #4  
Old 08-05-2000, 05:08 PM
bulletproof
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: What kind of an accident does it take to get fired

HeavyWeather on 8/5/00 3:39 PM said:

>>Thanks for the excellent answer Rib. Different drivers for
>>
>>Marten have given me different answers to what it takes to
>>
>>get terminated. Would like to hear from Marten Drivers also
>>
>>as to what kind of accident it takes to get terminated?
>>
>>
>>
>>Posted By: ip212.seattle26.wa.pub-ip.psi.net (38.28.165.212)
>>Why ??? Are you planning on having an accident, or do you have no confidence in your skills???


  #5  
Old 08-05-2000, 07:48 PM
prime rib
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: What kind of an accident does it take to get fired


From what I've heard from their drivers,
Martens a pretty decent outfit.
I hear they're one of the few out there that
actually give a hoot about their drivers.
Also, Heartland and Victory.
I'm keeping them in mind should I decide
to make some changes.

-rib



  #6  
Old 08-05-2000, 08:51 PM
Crusty
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: What kind of an accident does it take to get fired

HeavyWeather on 8/5/00 12:27 PM said:

>>Companies pretty much decide what they want to be considered a chargeable accident.They do this by an individual basis and sort of make up the rules as they need to fit their mood.Ask any saftey director to show you a list stateing which is standard for accident being chargeable or preventable and they will give you something from the top of their heads .But nothing in writeing ever,if it looks bad for the company it will always be bad for you.What kind of an accident does it take to get terminated in
>>
>>the first 6 months or year?
>>
>>
>>
>>What is considered preventable and what is considerd chargeable?
>>
>>
>>
>>If the truck rolls over in a preventable is the driver
>>
>>terminated automatically?
>>
>>
>>
>>Posted By: ip81.seattle26.wa.pub-ip.psi.net (38.28.165.81)
>>


  #7  
Old 08-05-2000, 09:12 PM
ted
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: What kind of an accident does it take to get fired

prime rib on 8/5/00 1:43 PM said:

>>HeavyWeather on 8/5/00 12:27 PM said:
>>
>>
>>
>>>>**** the bed fred
>>
>>>>
>>
>>What kind of an accident does it take to get terminated in
>>
>>the first 6 months or year?
>>
>>What is considered preventable and what is considerd chargeable?
>>
>>If the truck rolls over in a preventable is the driver terminated automatically?
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Most companies use dollar amount averageing in
>>
>>determining a driver's employability after an
>>
>>accident.
>>
>>By that I mean that minor damage ( e.g.; mirrors,
>>
>>scratches, a light, or a bumper ) won't get you
>>
>>canned unless you have a lot of them in a relatively
>>
>>short period of time ( along with a ticket or two ).
>>
>>
>>
>>If on the other hand, you flip the rig and total the
>>
>>truck, you can probably consider yourself history
>>
>>with that particular employer.
>>
>>Particularly if you've only been there a short while
>>
>>and someone was hurt in the accident.
>>
>>At this point it's costing the company more to keep
>>
>>you than what you are worth in employability.
>>
>>
>>
>>Though this is generally the case, I have seen exceptions.
>>
>>I know of a P&D driver with a local LTL outfit hereabouts
>>
>>who has had five accidents in the first two years on the
>>
>>job with this employer.
>>
>>His company policy says that a driver can have
>>
>>no more than one accident per year.
>>
>>His accident rate is nearly triple the company mandate.
>>
>>Yet he is still there.
>>
>>Why?
>>
>>Probably because he is the best darned P&D driver
>>
>>this company has ever seen -- or ever will see.
>>
>>He does all the stops, and pick-ups, that are dumped
>>
>>on him and gets done before the rest of his crew is
>>
>>halfway home.
>>
>>In short, he busts his hump and they wanna keep him.
>>
>>
>>
>>Still, I know of another guy who is deep mud with his CDL
>>
>>and his employer.
>>
>>He turned a corner to tight with a van and ripped a
>>
>>bus stop bench off it's moorings dragging it out into
>>
>>the street as he went.
>>
>>Did he stop?
>>
>>Nope.
>>
>>Did call in to report the accident?
>>
>>Nope.
>>
>>He just threw it in gear and took off.
>>
>>Well, as fate would have it, a county mounty
>>
>>was four cars behind him and pulled him over.
>>
>>He got wrote up for hit & run, reckless driving,
>>
>>public damage, and a host of other assorted items.
>>
>>In short, he lost his liscence for six months and
>>
>>he's working behind the counter at KFC.
>>
>>
>>
>>So I guess the answer to your question depends on
>>
>>who you know and how well you know them.
>>
>>All else being equal your best bet is take
>>
>>it easy out there and not have any wrecks
>>
>>in the first place...
>>
>>
>>
>>All the best,
>>
>>-rib
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Posted By: spider-wc024.proxy.aol.com (205.188.193.29)
>>


  #8  
Old 08-05-2000, 10:06 PM
HeavyWeather
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default The accident details. . . . . . . . ..............

My friends accident details were:

Employed by Marten for 5 months 29 days.

In the darkness on a Missouri road, making an Arbys fries
delivery a white car pulled out and drove right down the
center line, forcing him to put the right wheels on the dirt, the trailer flipped over on its side. The State
Police came and did not site the driver for anything.

The driver said that the trailer probably wouldn't have
flipped on its side if it would not have been loaded above
the Warning blue line inside the trailer. The driver said
that the load was about 6 inches above the blue line.

The driver was terminated by Marten and is now looking for
another company to drive for..







  #9  
Old 08-06-2000, 02:01 PM
prime rib
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: The accident details. . . . . . . . ..............


What was the exact reason given by Marten for the firing?
If they fired him for flipping the rig I think he has a case
since they filled the trailer above the safe load line to
begin with.
Tell him to consult a wrongful termination lawyer.
A good one is Paul Taylor with the Trucker's Legal Forum,
( known to many out here online as Opie ).

Phone him @ (651)454-5800.
e.mail to STAA405@aol.com

Good luck,
-rib


  #10  
Old 08-09-2000, 02:47 PM
Doug
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: What kind of an accident does it take to get fired

DON'T LOOSE A TRUCK
DON'T LOOSE A LOAD
IT'S EASIER TO UNLOAD IT AT THE DEPOT
THAN TO PICK IT UP OFF THE ROAD

HAVE A GOOD SLEEP EH, THERE IS NOOO SUBSTITUTE FOR SLEEP


 

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Special kind of stupid dechiknhaulr Layover's Lounge (Archive) 4 02-18-2007 02:23 PM
Kind of long and not at all entertaining, but . . seanote Layover's Lounge (Archive) 1 07-07-2006 09:17 AM
What kind of ****** r u? wallyg8tor Layover's Lounge (Archive) 4 10-21-2001 06:33 PM
kind of shower shoes does Big Joe wear bullmoose Layover's Lounge (Archive) 18 04-24-2001 10:17 PM
would someone be kind enough to answer a few simpl Debbie Layover's Lounge (Archive) 2 02-05-1999 08:00 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:55 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1996-2012, Layover.com All Rights Reserved