Just how good is a trucking job?

[juno_hoo]

Originally Posted by raneysonline

Don't get me started about the conservative mindset! John Steinbeck succinctly sums it up:



Citizens don't realize people in power are not going to look out for their best interest, especially corporations. Corporations, by definition, will do whatever is deemed possible by law to increase the value of shareholder's stock. If you want a solid infrastructure and burgeoning middle class with money to spend you darn well better vote for a liberal candidate. Time and time again it has been proven, if you give tax cuts to the wealthy it will not create jobs. DEMAND creates jobs and how do you create demand? Innovation, people with money to burn and a society with enough safety nets people aren't afraid to take risks.

Sorry for the rant. Feel free to disagree with me, I honestly am open to anyones opinions as I've been proven wrong before.

You, sir, are too right. I agree 150 %.

We only need about another 50 million Americans to wake-up and we'll be set.

[bungafoo]

Have patience people..it takes a little time for these ideas to work.

For those of you that don't like your Representative's party affiliation..they are glad to avert to the other party..if that pleases you.

Arlen Specter and Joe Lieberman ring a bell ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Society

The Great Society was a set of domestic programs in the United States promoted by President Lyndon B. Johnson and fellow Democrats in Congress in the 1960s.

Two main goals of the Great Society social reforms were the elimination of poverty and racial injustice. New major spending programs that addressed education, medical care, urban problems, and transportation were launched during this period. The Great Society in scope and sweep
resembled the New Deal domestic agenda of Franklin D. Roosevelt, but differed sharply in types of programs enacted.

Some Great Society proposals were stalled initiatives from John F.Kennedy's New Frontier. Johnson's success depended on his skills of persuasion, coupled with the Democratic landslide in the 1964 election that brought in many new liberals to Congress, making the House of Representatives in 1965 the most liberal House since 1938.

[juno_hoo]

Have patience people..it takes a little time for these ideas to work.

What are "these ideas."

For those of you that don't like your Representative's party affiliation..they are glad to avert to the other party..if that pleases you.

Arlen Specter and Joe Lieberman ring a bell ?

It should ring your bell when you note that those two were not pioneers when it comes to switching. Sounded 'novel' when Rush told you, no? It wasn't unusual at all... Seems that many politicians are opportunists and most tend to put themselves -- and their corporate bosses -- first.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Society

Your point is?

[juno_hoo]

Wow, Gao! You're a spambot but you're making more sense than Toomega. Artificial intelligence trumps lack of intelligence... Way to go.

[bungafoo]

Originally Posted by raneysonline

Don't get me started about the conservative mindset! John Steinbeck succinctly sums it up:

Sorry for the rant. Feel free to disagree with me, I honestly am open to anyones opinions as I've been proven wrong before

Originally Posted by raneysonline

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Hi Mr/Ms raneysonline,

You are a breath of fresh air to this very stagnant forum and your reference to Steinbeck indicates you are probably well read and informed on a number of subjects.

I would guess you understand, in my post above, that I was being facetious and politicians in general, are pretty much alike in their voting for "guns and butter" projects over the last four + decades.

Some folks say their ideals have devastated Americas' economy and left our citizens morally depraved and wallowing in a sea of prescription and non prescription drugs.

raney said :

DEMAND creates jobs and how do you create demand? Innovation, people with money to burn and a society with enough safety nets people aren't afraid to take risks.

I liked Henry Ford's philosophy ; pay his employees a wage high enough so they could purchase the products he manufactured.

Some argue that consumerism fueled by endless advertising CREATES DEMAND also creating overflowing landfills and saturating our depleting ground water with undesirable elements.

The housing pyramid bubble was an idea that created enormous wealth for many of our people temporarily but because of the mathematical concept, destroyed more people than it benefited and has left many unable to afford the most meager of housing.

To sum it up, Your and ike's ideas of liberalism haven't worked worth a daam so far.

Note ;

ike (juno) likes to set me and others up as straw men so he can chop us down...the truth is..I can't stand Rush and other talk show hosts and the neocons they represent.

Alex Jones and his guests are my most listened to talk show presently and I like Max Keiser (RT ...Russian Times) along with Lyndon LaRouche at Executive intelligence Review for economic advice.

Ron Paul most nearly represents my concept of a Statesman I would like to see as President of this country at this time.

[raneysonline]

@bungafoo

Thanks for the response.

I completely understand there is no silver bullet to "fix" the state of the nation. At its root it is a population issue. We have the technology to provide a quality living to every man woman and child on the planet. The problem is we lack the means of distribution *and* people are greedy as hell.

I agree with a lot of what Ron Paul says, we need to fix out country first and then worry about the rest of the world. I do still feel like we should abide by most NATO resolutions, we just need to quit the nation-building bull****. The war on terror is one of the greatest farces ever pulled by the military industrial complex. Yes 9/11 was a great tragedy but was it really worth thousands of soldiers lives and tens of thousands of innocent middle-easterners?

I don't agree with Ron Paul's complete laissez faire attitude with the economy. Both major market collapses were caused by rampant corporate thievery *not* a wellfare state begging for more from the country's coffers. I do agree with his social liberalism and giving people the right to live life as they see fit. He has a very progressive social mind for someone who has a very strict interpretation of creation.

As for the housing collapse and rampant overspending, that is not a liberal/conservative issue but a corporate/government issue. We need to teach basic finance in grade school so people on the bottom wrung can learn how to budget, apply for appropriate loans and not overextend and wreck their credit. Consumerism is a threat but it is also what spurs innovation. A necessary evil.

If I keep going I'm going to have to write a dissertation. My final point is don't vote for Gingrich. That dude is a scum-bag.

[bungafoo]

If I keep going I'm going to have to write a dissertation. My final point is don't vote for Gingrich. That dude is a scum-bag.

I share your disdain for Gingrich but understand why Sheldon Adelson took him under his wing.

I have yet to determine why the gw/Chaney administration and their Neo Con friends blackballed Gingrich and wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole for eight years.

Oh well, I guess I could look into it if I gave enough of a damm.

[raneysonline]

They blackballed him because he was too much bad press. The Karl Roves and **** Cheneys like to sit back and work out of the public eye. Gingrich will always go where the grass is greenest. This is evident in both his personal life (two divorces) and politics (consultant for Freddie Mac, Big Healthcare lobbyist, dishonorable discharge as speaker).

Of course, we can't forget when Cheney went and shot someone in the face.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OAJXYRxMQg

One of the funniest recounts of the event.

If I had to vote for a Republican candidate, it would be Ron Paul. I stand by my statement that Gingrich is scum

[bungafoo]

They blackballed him because he was too much bad press. The Karl Roves and **** Cheneys like to sit back and work out of the public eye.

Ah...yes...I remember it well.

The press and my fellow Americans adored our inconspicuous leaders that protected our country (except for twin towers, wtc-7, Pentagon and some ripped up rural land in Pa.) during those days .

And didn't our esteemed inconspicuous leaders secure the mid-east oil so those pesky chinamen will have to kiss our butt if they want any of it ?

How dare Newt sully their good name !!

[raneysonline]

How dare Newt sully their good name !!

I wish there was a sarcasm button on the internet. I laughed out loud.