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02-10-2008, 09:55 PM
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The Use of ILLEGAL so-called "10 Meter" radios in Trucks!
The use of so-called "10 Meter 'Amateur'" radios have become very popular in the trucking industry. It is very tempting to believe the CB hype about "extra channels" and "bands" of channels extending above and below the 40 CB channels. Unfortunately, these radios with "band" switches and "320 'channels'" are ILLEGAL and can get drivers in a lot of trouble! This also includes the DEALERS that SELL such radios. Some dealers have received FINES of up to $150,000 for selling these so-called "export" radios. Drivers have been severely scolded for operating outside the CB band, coming close to fines for their companies. What's the big deal?
The "big deal" is those so-called "10 Meter" radios allow drivers to operate ON the actual 10 and 12 Meter bands that just happen to be ASSIGNED to the International Amateur Radio Service, and it requires a LICENSE to operate there. Drivers think that those frequencies are "quiet and empty" when, actually, they are used for DIGITAL operations like Radio Teletype and Morse Code. Voice is not permitted--not even to the licensed ham operators. BUT! The "ham" operators (also called "amateur operators") HEAR truckers jabbering away on the lower end of 10 Meters and go out HUNTING these truckers, documenting their transmissions, their locations, their company names, tractor numbers, dates, times, and frequency of operation. They simply ride along beside a truck who is transmitting without saying a word, and with methods that will remain unrevealed for obvious reasons, they RECORD the activity. Then it is turned over to the FCC Special Counsel for Amateur Enforcement for action.
A LONG list of trucking companies have been lettered by FCC in this very manner and WARNED that continued operation of their drivers on 10 Meters will result in severe penalties, AND they are to have the drivers REMOVE the ILLEGAL radios from their tractors! Companies like UPS, FedEx, Estes, Smith Trucking, Waggoners, R & L Carriers--a whole list of companies have been threatened with FINES by FCC. You may NOT use 10 Meters. PERIOD! ..........unless, of course, you have the license to do so.
This is simply a heads-up to let drivers know that they may NOT be transmitting outside the CB band without license, nor can they especially be transmitting on the 10 Meter band lest they be located by the hams and turned in. What to YOU may be "snitching", to THEM, it is protecting something that BELONGS to THEM by virtue of license; illegal CB operators MAY NOT encroach there under the threat of $10,000 fines and SEIZURE of the radio equipment. If you think this is a lot of baloney, simply go to Google and Search, "Truckers and 10 Meters", or FCC & Pilot Travel Centers". This is NO JOKE, folks and those who continue to talk on 10 Meters thinking it is some sort of a "freeband" thing will eventually get an unpleasant surprise.
RR
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02-11-2008, 01:53 PM
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Re: The Use of ILLEGAL so-called "10 Meter" radios in Trucks!
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The use of so-called "10 Meter 'Amateur'" radios have become very popular in the trucking industry.
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True.
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This is NO JOKE, folks and those who continue to talk on 10 Meters thinking it is some sort of a "freeband" thing will eventually get an unpleasant surprise.
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Funny stuff RR. Like the comet Kahoutec, every once in awhile I can depend on you to come around here with the warning about using illegal radios on your channels. It's hilarious how a "conservative" guy wants big government to expend our scarce tax bucks to get people off your channels, so a bunch of radio hobbyists can play on them. Why don't ham radio guys get telephones? 
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02-11-2008, 04:00 PM
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Re: The Use of ILLEGAL so-called "10 Meter" radios in Trucks!
who is radio ray????????????????????
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02-11-2008, 04:09 PM
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Re: The Use of ILLEGAL so-called "10 Meter" radios in Trucks!
DEAR MR. RADIO,
MAY I SUGGEST THAT YOU GET A LIFE,
MAYBE BUY A TRUCK, LEASE ON WITH
JB HUNT OR SOMETHING.
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02-11-2008, 04:53 PM
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Re: The Use of ILLEGAL so-called "10 Meter" radios in Trucks!
Ahh...radioray, aka Gadfly...
We all know what a gadfly is, don't we.
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02-11-2008, 04:56 PM
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Re: The Use of ILLEGAL so-called "10 Meter" radios in Trucks!
BTW...weren't you harping about radioactive somewhere recently? Seems they are STILL selling bodacious radios. (Their words, not mine.)
Guess the wrath of the FCC was nothing more than a parking ticket...
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02-11-2008, 06:53 PM
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Re: The Use of ILLEGAL so-called "10 Meter" radios in Trucks!
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They simply ride along beside a truck who is transmitting without saying a word, and with methods that will remain unrevealed for obvious reasons, they RECORD the activity. Then it is turned over to the FCC Special Counsel for Amateur Enforcement for action.
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Thats okay, I also sell high-powered radio equipment to fry electronics to truckers.
When will you guys learn, electronic warfare is much more fun than playing with radios.
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02-11-2008, 06:56 PM
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Re: The Use of ILLEGAL so-called "10 Meter" radios in Trucks!
These guys aren't selling "bodacious radios"! They only laugh until the Feds REALLY get after them. Then it isn't so funny. There's a bunch of CBers who smirked and laughed, too. But they got nailed with big fines when they ignored FCC's attempts to get them to comply. Some of us think we are too "big" to be stopped. That, too, stops when the Marshals show up. I really don't see the argument. The law is CLEAR. Every point I have made is valid and accurate. If you get caught talking outside the 40 CB channels, it can cost you (and your company) plenty. The radios are against the law, operating anywhere outside CB without license is also illegal. There's nothing to argue over! It is simple FACT!
RR
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FCC, Pilot Travel Centers Consent Decree Ends Transceiver Marketing Case
NEWINGTON, CT, May 11, 2006--A consent decree has finally ended an enforcement action against Pilot Travel Centers LLC that could have cost the company $125,000 in fines. In November 2004 the FCC issued a NoticeofApparentLiability ( NAL) asserting that Pilot, despite multiple citations and warnings, continued to market CB transceivers labeled as Amateur Radio gear but intended for use on both Citizens Band and amateur frequencies. An FCC Order released May 11 adopts the attached consent decree between the agency and Pilot and terminates the forfeiture action. While Pilot agrees to make "a voluntary contribution" of $90,000 to the US Treasury "without further protest or recourse," the company does not admit any wrongdoing.
"The parties further agree that this consent decree is for settlement purposes only and that by agreeing to the consent decree, Pilot does not admit or deny any liability for violating the [Communications] Act or the rules in connection with the matters that are the subject of this consent decree," the agreement stipulates.
Under the terms of the consent decree, Pilot must refrain in the future from marketing as "Amateur Radio" gear any transmitting devices with built-in features to facilitate CB operation. The company must determine in advance that any CB transmitting gear it offers for sale is FCC certificated. CB transmitters must receive FCC certification--formerly called "type acceptance." Amateur Radio transmitting equipment does not require FCC certification.
Should Pilot plan to sell legitimate Amateur Radio transceivers, it must ensure before marketing or selling them that the ARRL Lab has reviewed the equipment in question and determined that it transmits only in the Amateur Radio bands. The ARRL Lab tests equipment both for QST "Product Review" articles as well as for compliance with QST advertising policy, which requires that items offered for sale meet FCC rules.
Further, the consent decree requires Pilot to remove from sale certain Galaxy brand transceivers (models DX33HML, DX66V and DX99V) and any other "Amateur Radio" transceivers that have not passed ARRL Lab muster in the course of product review or advertising compliance testing. Pilot also will have to ensure that any CB transceivers on sale by entities leasing space on its premises are FCC certificated.
Pilot's director of marketing will be responsible for making sure the company complies with the consent decree. The company also must make the agreement's terms available to its employees and, if applicable, review its requirements with employees at least semi-annually for the next two years. Pilot further must obtain a copy of the ARRL Lab review of a particular product--if one is available--before purchasing any Amateur Radio transmitting equipment for sale. The consent decree terminates an enforcement action dating back more than six years. In its 2004 NAL, the FCC had alleged that between 2002 and 2004, Pilot "in 47 separate instances" offered for sale various models of non-certificated Galaxy CB transceivers labeled as "amateur radios" that easily could be modified for CB operation. The FCC said that in some instances, Pilot employees referred to the units as "CBs."
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02-11-2008, 07:02 PM
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Re: The Use of ILLEGAL so-called "10 Meter" radios in Trucks!
I'm starting a petition to change your name to "WallOfTextGuy"
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02-11-2008, 07:07 PM
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Re: The Use of ILLEGAL so-called "10 Meter" radios in Trucks!
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Originally Posted by radioray
These guys aren't selling "bodacious radios"! They only laugh until the Feds REALLY get after them. Then it isn't so funny. There's a bunch of CBers who smirked and laughed, too. But they got nailed with big fines when they ignored FCC's attempts to get them to comply. Some of us think we are too "big" to be stopped. That, too, stops when the Marshals show up. I really don't see the argument. The law is CLEAR. Every point I have made is valid and accurate. If you get caught talking outside the 40 CB channels, it can cost you (and your company) plenty. The radios are against the law, operating anywhere outside CB without license is also illegal. There's nothing to argue over! It is simple FACT!
RR
************************************************** ******
FCC, Pilot Travel Centers Consent Decree Ends Transceiver Marketing Case
NEWINGTON, CT, May 11, 2006--A consent decree has finally ended an enforcement action against Pilot Travel Centers LLC that could have cost the company $125,000 in fines. In November 2004 the FCC issued a NoticeofApparentLiability ( NAL) asserting that Pilot, despite multiple citations and warnings, continued to market CB transceivers labeled as Amateur Radio gear but intended for use on both Citizens Band and amateur frequencies. An FCC Order released May 11 adopts the attached consent decree between the agency and Pilot and terminates the forfeiture action. While Pilot agrees to make "a voluntary contribution" of $90,000 to the US Treasury "without further protest or recourse," the company does not admit any wrongdoing.
"The parties further agree that this consent decree is for settlement purposes only and that by agreeing to the consent decree, Pilot does not admit or deny any liability for violating the [Communications] Act or the rules in connection with the matters that are the subject of this consent decree," the agreement stipulates.
Under the terms of the consent decree, Pilot must refrain in the future from marketing as "Amateur Radio" gear any transmitting devices with built-in features to facilitate CB operation. The company must determine in advance that any CB transmitting gear it offers for sale is FCC certificated. CB transmitters must receive FCC certification--formerly called "type acceptance." Amateur Radio transmitting equipment does not require FCC certification.
Should Pilot plan to sell legitimate Amateur Radio transceivers, it must ensure before marketing or selling them that the ARRL Lab has reviewed the equipment in question and determined that it transmits only in the Amateur Radio bands. The ARRL Lab tests equipment both for QST "Product Review" articles as well as for compliance with QST advertising policy, which requires that items offered for sale meet FCC rules.
Further, the consent decree requires Pilot to remove from sale certain Galaxy brand transceivers (models DX33HML, DX66V and DX99V) and any other "Amateur Radio" transceivers that have not passed ARRL Lab muster in the course of product review or advertising compliance testing. Pilot also will have to ensure that any CB transceivers on sale by entities leasing space on its premises are FCC certificated.
Pilot's director of marketing will be responsible for making sure the company complies with the consent decree. The company also must make the agreement's terms available to its employees and, if applicable, review its requirements with employees at least semi-annually for the next two years. Pilot further must obtain a copy of the ARRL Lab review of a particular product--if one is available--before purchasing any Amateur Radio transmitting equipment for sale. The consent decree terminates an enforcement action dating back more than six years. In its 2004 NAL, the FCC had alleged that between 2002 and 2004, Pilot "in 47 separate instances" offered for sale various models of non-certificated Galaxy CB transceivers labeled as "amateur radios" that easily could be modified for CB operation. The FCC said that in some instances, Pilot employees referred to the units as "CBs."
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Don't be such a homer...
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